Speaker 1: 0:07

Welcome to the Bubble Lounge. I'm Martha Jackson and today my BFF, christy Weitzel, is joining us. Christy, thank you for being here today.

Speaker 2: 0:15

So glad to be here. Thanks for having me.

Speaker 1: 0:17

Well, we have a lot to discuss. I woke up at 3am this morning and couldn't get back to sleep. I've had way too much caffeine, my hands are shaking and I'm starting to break out in a sweat and I think that's hormones and I'm in a mood. So we're going to kind of go on some rants today.

Speaker 2: 0:35

Honestly, I'm a little hopped up on coffee as well, so this should be a really fun show.

Speaker 1: 0:41

Well, yeah, definitely will make for an interesting conversation. Well, we have a lot to cover today. We both just recently went to our daughter's parents weekend at college, so there's a lot to talk about there and just kind of comparing to how it was back in our day at OU and we have homecoming to discuss, and just how over the top that's become. And then what inspired this whole episode. We're going to talk about tipping and all the people that want to tip out there.

Speaker 2: 1:10

Yes, I have a story on that.

Speaker 1: 1:14

So the reason I invited Christy today is because we always have a good time talking and laughing anyways, but back in the day, in the dot-com era, she had this business called ListenHoneycom, and so I just thought she'd be perfect to rant with me today. Tell us about ListenHoney.

Speaker 2: 1:30

Oh my gosh, that was so much fun. We used to write anonymous letters on your behalf addressing bad behaviors, poor hygiene, and they all started with ListenHoney. Someone that knows you has called to our attention.

Speaker 2: 1:44

You have a flatulence problem and we would send them an anonymous letter addressing that issue or whatever an issue with a coworker or poor behavior, rudeness, whatever it was and we would send them. Let's say it was bad breath. We would send them an anonymous letter with a little tube of toothpaste that had listenhoneycom on it, and I, like we. It's about time to bring that back, Actually.

Speaker 1: 2:07

I was actually just thinking I'm glad that it's not around.

Speaker 2: 2:10

Well, the fun part is, let's say, I sent you a letter and you would be like I can't believe my husband sent me this letter. And he would send it to someone who he thought, and so I got to see all the background of, of who thought. You know of the trail of who they thought sent the letter.

Speaker 1: 2:25

Oh, very mysterious. That's pretty funny. Well, you were actually on a game show talking about it.

Speaker 2: 2:30

That was a memory right, that was so much fun. I was on to tell the truth, and so there was myself and then two imposters of me, and the panel of actors had to guess who the real Christy Weitzel was. That's right, it was like Paula Poundstone, meshack Taylor and Angie Everhart were the celebrities yes, the celebrities that were guessing.

Speaker 1: 2:54

I mean, just think how far your little business took you. That's so much fun. It was fun. It was a lot of fun. Well, we've got a lot to cover today, so we'll be back in a moment.

Speaker 1: 3:04

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Speaker 1: 3:39

Let's start with Parents Weekend and somebody's calling me. Oh, it's Alexis. Hang on just a second. Hi, sweetie, you're on the Bubble Lounge. What's going on? I finally got vinegar and baking soda to clean my mobility, stanley, but I forgot the instructions on how to take off that top part. Okay, would it be okay if I called you back? You're actually live on the Bubble Lounge. Do you want to say hi? Oh, if I called you back, you're actually live on the bubble now. Do you want to say hi, oh, no, and guess who my guest is today? Who is it? Christy, your favorite godmother.

Speaker 2: 4:11

Hi, how are you? Hi, sweetheart, I'm good. I'm here at an event with your mom today. We're telling all kinds of embarrassing stories about you.

Speaker 1: 4:19

We're about to oh, my God, I just kind of added myself with the moldy water bottle situation. Well, we're about to talk about Parents Weekend. Is it okay if I call you right after Okay, love you, bye. That's the first time I've ever taken a live call on air. Okay, parents Weekend. You had yours a week ago at TCU. How was it?

Speaker 2: 4:49

Okay, it was so much fun and it was, I have to say I have to give it to the girls. It was very well organized, but it was hotter than hell and every second was planned. There was like very little downtown Right.

Speaker 1: 5:01

Yeah, well, that sounds familiar, Very familiar. I mean the itinerary. I knew I was already exhausted before I got there.

Speaker 2: 5:07

Exactly, exactly, because it was two days. Well, actually it was three days of activities. The third day was a breakfast at the sorority house, which was great. We didn't go.

Speaker 1: 5:19

You opted out of it, we opted out of it. Oh well, well, that happens. Well, I mean, it's just changed so much since you and I were at OU. We had Mom's Weekend and Dad's Weekend, but I think parents usually came together unless they were divorced.

Speaker 2: 5:34

Yes, I remember that and it was, the major thing was a football game and then we had Sooner Scandals the talent show the night before, and that was so much fun. But there was a lot of downtime. I remember, you know, time for lunch with my parents and shopping, and you know, I'm sure they still find time for that. But it just seems like things are way more scheduled, so much more going on and a lot fancier too. Oh my gosh.

Speaker 1: 6:05

So fancy. I mean they're like at legit venues. Ours was at a really pretty venue and it was partially outdoor and partially indoor. It had like a legit country band. That was really good Bar food photo ops, all this stuff.

Speaker 2: 6:18

Oh how fun. Ours was very similar to that. It was at a bar in Fort Worth and we did it with a fraternity, or they did it with a fraternity, and it was super crowded, super fun. It was great to catch up with a lot of familiar faces and a lot of fun. It's just it was exhausting, though. I mean it took me a couple of days to recover from all the activities, and also, not to mention the heat. That was my other thing. I don't ever remember it being so hot for parents weekend.

Speaker 1: 6:45

Well, hopefully, if they picked a better time of year, not still the hot time of year, I wish they would. I don't remember what month it was in, but yeah, I remember there was a ton of downtime. Everything wasn't planned, but yeah, we were pretty hot too, and I was told at UT, for the games you need to wear a maxi dress or long skirt, like shorts are not an option. Oh my goodness. So I had on a long cotton dress and I kept like pulling it up and airing out at the game.

Speaker 2: 7:15

Yes, that's kind of similar. I mean, I think that, even speaking with my daughters, I think that football games have become a fashion show. Oh yeah, and I feel like when we were in college, we wore shorts and an OU t-shirt, probably.

Speaker 1: 7:30

Exactly. That's still, by the way, what the OU fans are wearing. Whenever we go to OU Texas, the Texas girls are like this bevy of beauties, these supermodels walking out, and our people have the OU shirts on with the shorts. So no dresses over there.

Speaker 2: 7:46

It's kind of. It's actually kind of nice, I think they aren't as hot.

Speaker 1: 7:51

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Speaker 1: 8:47

Well, so have you ever listened to the podcast? I've had it with. Yes, those girls are brilliant. I think they're so funny. Well, in every episode they go on different rants about different things, so I thought we could kind of copy them today. Let's do it. I know it, you go first.

Speaker 2: 9:04

What have you had it with? Oh goodness, okay, I'll go first.

Speaker 1: 9:12

okay, you go first I've had it with people taking their dogs everywhere. Oh yes, I mean, I see so many dogs on leashes at the mall and I just I don't understand why and you know I love dogs, I own two you would never see me take my dogs to the mall I, I agree with you 100.

Speaker 2: 9:30

I see more dogs in grocery stores, restaurants, everywhere I go and, you know, not necessarily the most well behaved. A lot of them are little yippy ones. That you know, and that's not what I want to hear when I'm eating at a restaurant on a patio. Not at all, or you know, also traveling. Everybody has a support dog.

Speaker 1: 9:51

Yes.

Speaker 2: 9:52

Yes, and there's so many more dogs on planes, and it just makes me feel so bad for the precious little animals Because you know that they're hating life being stuffed underneath a chair that has, like you know, one cubic foot of space for them.

Speaker 1: 10:05

Well, sometimes they're not in their container Because one got out on one of our flights and the flight attendant was hilarious. All of a sudden he got on the speaker. He goes excuse, excuse me, is anyone missing a poodle?

Speaker 2: 10:20

and I was like, oh my god, then it ran under our feet. Oh, that's hilarious.

Speaker 1: 10:23

It was hilarious, that's pretty funny like recently I was at la la land and this man had this big, very hairy dog in there and it wasn't even on the leash. The leash was in the dog's mouth. Oh and it was. It was walking around taking himself for a walk. Yeah, it literally like stepped over my legs and the man just sat there and watched. She didn't say I'm sorry, or get it back, or he didn't care.

Speaker 2: 10:45

That is. That's crazy. Yeah there's, I kind of had it with that too exactly well, um, one last thing on that.

Speaker 1: 10:53

I was at the mall recently and there was a lady with, you know, those clear backpacks with the bubble in it, and there's usually a cat in there, there was a bird in it. I even have a picture that I'll show you.

Speaker 2: 11:04

That's something I have never seen. Why do you need to take your bird to the mall? Emotional support I guess so.

Speaker 1: 11:17

I guess. So that's crazy. I know it is crazy. Well, one other thing that I'm kind of done with is all the national days. It was just National Daughters Day followed by National Sons Day. We have a National Podcast.

Speaker 2: 11:24

Day, yes, and I feel like a failure as a mother because I did not.

Speaker 2: 11:28

I know I did not post any cute pictures for National Daughters Day, but don't you think, martha, that it's one mom just saying I'm going to make today National Daughters Day and see who jumps on this bandwagon? I swear, I think it's one person that just throws it out there on Facebook and then the mothers of sons are like, oh no, we can't forget our son. So then somebody. I just I feel it's not even a real thing, but I like Facebook has so many fake holidays.

Speaker 2: 11:57

Yeah, yeah, because they all started about the time that Facebook started right, yes, exactly, and you know me, I'm not a big poster, and so whenever I see these things, it gives me tremendous mom guilt, and I am so over that.

Speaker 1: 12:09

I know I feel guilty for not recognizing and showing my love online to a bunch of strangers with my kids, but the main reason.

Speaker 2: 12:17

I don't even know you. I'm sure they're judging me right now, and you too.

Speaker 1: 12:22

Yeah, I'm sure they are. But the main reason I didn't is both of my kids don't like any photos that they've ever taken, so if I posted something, I would be contacted almost immediately and asked to remove it.

Speaker 2: 12:32

Yes, I agree with you on that. But then also there's the. You know, there's so such little privacy left in our lives and I kind of just don't want to share every moment of my family out there. But on the flip side of that, I'm a big hypocrite, because I love to see everybody else's photos you know, and I know that my extended family would love for me to post more because that's their way of kind of keeping in touch with the girls. But yes, I am with you 100% on the fake holidays.

Speaker 1: 13:05

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Speaker 2: 14:11

One thing that I've kind of had it with is everything is so over the top now and the pressure for parents is ridiculous, and one example I can think of is Homecoming. When did that become such a production? And my other question is why do these kids have to ask their dates in May or June for the following October?

Speaker 1: 14:32

I have no idea. Again. It's that one mom that we're talking about that started National Daughters Day and Sons Day.

Speaker 2: 14:39

Well, she had to book the bus six months in advance and start with the monogram sashes for the girls bouquets and, yeah, she had to start party planning for the pre and after party for homecoming for these kids.

Speaker 1: 14:54

Okay, we're going to have to make up a name for this woman. You know Karen is already taken, so we're going to have to come up with something else. But yeah, I was asked just last night from a lady that does floral in our neighborhood. She does a lot of the homecoming bouquets. She said I'm getting a lot of questions from freshman moms that are freaking out about all the details and you need to do a whole podcast on homecoming. But let's just talk about that a little bit more. You do not have to get the damn monogrammed ribbon guys. That became a trend, I think, a couple of years ago and she said that was like the number one question she's getting is they feel like they have to get it?

Speaker 2: 15:31

No, you don't have to do anything. That's what all these moms I mean, having girls that are out of high school. You really don't have to do any of it, but there's such a pressure that makes you it's like. It's like FOMO for our age. You know, or you just don't. There's just such a pressure to keep up with everybody else's standards and it's not necessary. Your child will live without a monogrammed bow on their you know $300 bouquet that they're going to hold for one picture and then toss it aside.

Speaker 1: 16:02

That is what's so annoying, is they literally hold it for a photo and then they give it to their mom and they probably never see it again.

Speaker 2: 16:10

Yes, exactly, and I feel bad for all these boy moms that have to deal with this Well, I mean, speaking of the flower part, alexis's first year, her freshman year.

Speaker 1: 16:22

I forgot to order the boutonniere, oh my goodness. And her date's mom, is like type quadruple A would never make a mistake like that. I felt so bad. I literally thought I was going to cry right in front of everyone when I realized I screwed up.

Speaker 2: 16:39

Oh, no, well, I have the opposite end of that. So Hannah's homecoming date, mom forgot to order hers. And where the girls went to school. They didn't do the bouquets, they still did the traditional wrist wrist corsage. Yes, and this mom was so horrified she went out and attempted to make it herself the day. The day of what? Did it look like you know, she did a really nice job actually, but it weighed like 20 pounds on her wrist it looked like a bouquet on Hannah's wrist because you know she's not a florist and she chose, like, regular size roses and I think Hannah had a dozen roses on her wrist.

Speaker 2: 17:26

It was, um, it was pretty funny, but you know I I'll remember that just because it was a laughable moment. Oh my God.

Speaker 1: 17:32

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Speaker 2: 18:38

Yes, I mean, I thought they were huge when you and I were in high school.

Speaker 1: 18:41

They were so obnoxious in our day.

Speaker 2: 18:42

Yes, and they just keep going. Yes, martha and I were both in. We went to high school in Fort Worth separate high schools, but we knew each other and both of our high schools were crazy moms and it was like it was almost the same as these beautiful bouquets with the monogram ribbon. It was like whoever had the bigger moms, and especially if you had a stuffed animal in the middle of it and the mom covered your entire chest. I mean you were kind of the it girl back then.

Speaker 2: 19:09

So I feel so the pressure is the same, but different. Now, you different now for these poor boy moms.

Speaker 1: 19:15

Oh, I know for sure. But I mean how distracting to wear one of those, and they always had cowbells on them.

Speaker 2: 19:21

Oh yes, they had the cowbells and the ribbons, and a lot of the girls would request the fake flowers so that they could hang them on their walls and they would last forever and ever and ever.

Speaker 1: 19:34

Oh, I had the real flowers that just rotted on the wall, but that seemed to be the norm at my high school. Like every high school girl had rotten flowers on their walls. How gross is that.

Speaker 2: 19:48

That's hilarious. My high school they used the fake flowers because they wanted every girl.

Speaker 1: 19:52

I think that's better.

Speaker 2: 19:52

Well, yeah, we all wanted to hang them as a piece of art on our wall. We had several from different years.

Speaker 1: 19:58

Well, yeah, it was like a badge of honor, exactly, especially when you got the really but yes, it still happens today and they've even gotten larger, like it almost takes two people to wear one mom.

Speaker 1: 20:10

So I really, you know, again, that's something that's kind of gotten out of hand over the top, ridiculous Gotten way out of hand and you know it seems like you go to all this effort, you spend all this money buying the dress and getting ready and all the stuff and they stay at the dance for 10 minutes. Get a few photos. Just going to say that they don't even stay at the dance they do the pre-party at one parent's house.

Speaker 2: 20:33

Then the bus picks them up and then they go to the dance for literally, like you said, 10 minutes, and then another parent hosts a huge after-party and it lasts until God knows when. But yes, so it's kind of a shame that they don't like actually go to the dance and enjoy homecoming, I know. It's so crazy. It's what kind of feels like. What's the purpose? It would be more inclusive if everybody stayed in one spot. For sure, for sure.

Speaker 1: 21:02

Yeah Well, these after parties. I've actually never hosted one, but my takeaway is you have to have the big metal letters that spell out HOCO 24. Or the big balloon oh the big balloon arches oh yeah, of course Exactly. Oh my gosh yeah it is all gotten out of hand. Well, you know, we shared our homecoming tips.

Speaker 2: 21:29

Let's talk about tipping, because I know you and I both have a big rant about this. Oh my goodness, everyone has a handout and I don't understand. Oh, I guess this happened after COVID, yeah, but the tip of the iceberg was last week. I met you at a shopping event and it was a charity event where you had to pay to get in and shop, and it's always a wonderful production. But you and I went to a specific booth and we purchased some jewelry cleaner and when we paid, the girl wanted a tip and I was thinking, wait, you want me to pay you extra because I'm buying your product. I just didn't see how that made any sense to me. And the tip didn't start at like 10%. It started, I think, at 22% and went up.

Speaker 1: 22:17

Oh my God, I didn't even look. I was so mad when I saw that I just pushed.

Speaker 2: 22:20

No, I know I pushed no as well, but that's my other thing too is a lot of these restaurants will start at 22%. When did that happen? I don't know. I missed that one Exactly. I just feel like everywhere you go, everyone wants a tip, and I understand. You know, if you provide a good service, I am happy to tip well. In fact, I do tip well on good service at restaurants. But if it's crappy service, I'm going to give you a crappy tip. Sure sure you have to earn it. I mean, I have to earn my money for a living, so I feel like other people should too. Well, the whole, I don't know if you should cut that out, because half of the world is like no no, no, got their hands okay.

Speaker 1: 23:02

Well, you know, when Christy and I bought this jewelry cleaner, the way that they lured you into their booth is they literally were demonstrating how the product worked, and we all put our rings in. We is, they literally were demonstrating how the product worked and we all put our rings in. We were suckers when we bought it. Well, they did such a good demo.

Speaker 1: 23:21

You know our rings literally have never looked more pretty. Right, yours is still sparkly, by the way. They were so dazzling. Well, you've got to use your product, and so they sat there and cleaned them, and I guess that's what they wanted the tip for, but we bought the damn product.

Speaker 2: 23:35

There?

Speaker 1: 23:35

Yes, that's what they wanted the tip for, but we bought the damn product. There's no reason we should have tipped. I agree 100%. Well, I just think that the whole concept of tipping is weird to me, because you're placing basically a job review in the hands of the masses instead of the employer.

Speaker 2: 23:47

That's true, I never really thought about it that way, but it's true, really thought about it that way, but it's true. And I don't understand a tip at restaurants where you walk to the counter and you order and then you go back up and you pick up your food. I mean, you're doing people work yeah, we're. Just you're not being served for a tip and, um, you know, minimum wage is up, so everybody but it's not just the food industry, it's really literally every industry is asking for a tip now. Yeah, I know.

Speaker 1: 24:20

I don't get it. I don't know how we got here. I don't know when we got to 22% either, and I don't know. So, christy, you really have some strong opinions about this, don't you? Yes, what are your guidelines? What are your tips for tipping?

Speaker 2: 24:33

this, don't you? Yes, what are your guidelines? What are your tips for tipping? Oh, that's a good question. My tips for tipping? Okay, so when I run in to grab a coffee and it's a $5 coffee I don't necessarily feel like I have to always tip. But there's that part of you when they turn the screen around and it says tip and you feel guilty or cheap if you don't do it. But if you're running in for a $5 coffee which costs 30 cents to make I don't always feel necessary, unless it's a place that I frequent and I'm constantly giving good service Then I think it's appropriate to tip on that.

Speaker 1: 25:01

Yeah right, If you know you're going to go back and you've kind of formed a relationship with the staff there, you definitely want to tip well.

Speaker 2: 25:18

Yes, but there is. I think there is such. I think we should coin the term guilt tipping because that you know they do these workers behind the counter, they guilt tip you, and you know I think I mentioned COVID earlier, but during COVID we tipped the service workers because they couldn't work.

Speaker 2: 25:25

And that was. You know, everybody was caring and generous and they wanted to keep their restaurants and their workers in business. And then it's just kind of continued and we're back to business as normal, and I feel like tipping should go back to business as normal as well.

Speaker 1: 25:42

You know who has made that the thing? It's that Facebook mom, the National Daughters Day lady. I mean, she just keeps coming into the picture.

Speaker 2: 25:50

We have got to think of her name, Martha. That would be really fun to name her, although we would offend someone, I'm sure.

Speaker 1: 25:57

Well, you'll have to make up a name that nobody has Griselda.

Speaker 2: 26:01

Griselda? I don't know.

Speaker 1: 26:02

No, no, that doesn't work. It could be Okay, we'll brainstorm on that.

Speaker 2: 26:07

We'll get back with you, martha. I just had one other thought. Of things that are annoying is the amount of pictures that we take in our generation, but also the younger kids. Everything is photographed and Instagrammed and so forth, and I know for me I have no memory left in my phone. I can't store one more thing. I've got to go through and start deleting all the you know apps and the large files and all this. And it's all because of the photos that exist which I never go back and look at.

Speaker 1: 26:40

I know why do we take so many things. And then I used to take like full-on concert videos when I'd go to a concert. Like there's a full Motley Crue concert on my phone.

Speaker 2: 26:52

How many times have you gone back and watched that Constantly, daily? Okay, well, so then that's worth it, but that is probably taking up half the storage on your phone. Yeah, Well, and then we pay for extra storage. So we're basically tipping Back to the tipping.

Speaker 1: 27:06

For extra storage on our phones. Yeah, we're tipping Apple to keep us going here.

Speaker 2: 27:12

Exactly.

Speaker 1: 27:12

And it's just like when people get storage units. They filled up their house with all their crap and they don't have any more room for it. Then they go pay for a storage unit. Oh I know, that is the biggest waste of money.

Speaker 2: 27:23

That is the biggest waste of money because storage is not cheap. I just helped one of my clients find a storage unit and a storage service while we were remodeling their house, and it was you know. By the time we paid for all that, they could have bought an entire house of new furniture. So it just sometimes it's better just to let go and buy new and just start all over Exactly Well, you have shared some really good tips today, and this has been fun.

Speaker 1: 27:51

I mean, I'm still shaking from too much caffeine, but I feel like I'm in a better mood now.

Speaker 2: 27:55

Well, me too I always love coming on the Bubble Lounge and ranting with you, so anytime.

Speaker 1: 28:00

Well, thank you for taking the time out of your day today. That's been another episode of the Bubble Lounge. I'm Martha Jackson. I'll see you next time.