Speaker 1: 0:00

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Speaker 2: 0:16

Welcome to the Bubble.

Speaker 1: 0:16

Lounge. I'm Nellie Shudeau and I'm Martha Jackson, and it's been a bit since Nellie and I've been together on the show. It's true, we both had a lot going on. Tell me what's up, oh Lord.

Speaker 2: 0:27

I've been doing a TV series, I've been doing a film and I've been going to Boston to get Charles off to college.

Speaker 1: 0:34

Very nice. You know, and you, I can't say the same. I have not had a TV show which you've been doing tons of Highland Park staff which has been fun, yes, and I've loved every minute of it. I've been on the sidelines at the games and just having a bald, interviewing different people and getting to know a lot of different students and staff, and just it's been wonderful.

Speaker 2: 0:54

Yeah, and how's Alexis doing?

Speaker 1: 0:56

Everything's good, she's very happy, doing great. What about Charles? Charles is very happy.

Speaker 2: 1:01

I mean, it took a while, it wasn't. You know it. Just, I don't think anybody just goes to school in the first week. It's all thrilling, but especially for somebody who's going to school with nobody, he knows all the way in Boston et cetera. But it's been great. And he's the cross country team is amazing. That's provided a friend group and all kinds. He loves, being a city, so it's worked out it just. It just took a little bit to adjust. Well, more importantly, how are you doing? You know what I'm doing. Fine, I thought I wouldn't be. I mean, I miss him terribly, but you know I'm going to see him, you know, next week, so I'm fine with it.

Speaker 1: 1:34

So I had a whole lot of lead up anxiety and just like and I. It wasn't because I didn't think she would be okay. I think it was more about me. I think it was because I didn't know if I would be okay without her to be honest yes Of course, but once we got her there and I came back home I was totally fine, but there was just a lot of emotion and just I was not myself leading up to her departure.

Speaker 2: 1:57

Well, I still cry like I miss him. I mean, that's just me. I'm very emotional, like I'll just sit in the car and I'll just think about it and I'll start crying and then I think he's so happy it's okay.

Speaker 1: 2:07

Well, that's understandable. It's like that we're all experiencing new things this year, and so what better way to get us out of our sadness and our funk than to have the Highland Park cheer captains on Exactly?

Speaker 2: 2:21

We all need a cheer team to make us feel better.

Speaker 1: 2:23

I know we literally need to hire these girls to come to our house and just hang out and like give us daily pep talks.

Speaker 2: 2:29

I would be so happy if I had them.

Speaker 1: 2:32

Well, I'm so excited to have them on because I met them on the sidelines recently and they're just adorable and they're so enthusiastic and they're just all about the school yeah.

Speaker 2: 2:41

So today on the show we have Caroline Jurevec, georgia Graves and Sobi Niato, and they are the Highland Park cheer captains. So they're going to make you so happy and they've got a lot to share.

Speaker 1: 2:52

Ladies, welcome to the show.

Speaker 3: 2:54

Thank you so much.

Speaker 1: 2:56

I had the pleasure of meeting all of you on the sidelines at the Lake Highlands game recently, and I would love for you to introduce yourselves to the audience and tell us what got you interested in cheerleading Hi.

Speaker 3: 3:06

I'm Caroline Jurevec and I've been cheering since I was around six years old at a smaller gym called United, and I've just cheered ever since. It's the best sport and I fell in love with it when I was six years old.

Speaker 4: 3:20

Hi, I'm Sobi and I have a similar story. I started out at a smaller gym called J-Rocs Gym and I actually started because one of my best friends was doing it and I just wanted to be around the people that I loved and I also fell in love with the sport after.

Speaker 5: 3:34

Hi, I'm Georgia Graves and I started cheering at J-Rocs as well in second grade, having tumbled before, and I've loved it ever since and want to keep doing it.

Speaker 2: 3:43

Well, I just want to say to you all that when I hear you guys talking about tumbling class and stuff, most kids just go to tumbling class and that's all they do. It's really impressive that you guys really entered into the sport, because it's a really tough sport. It's hard on your body, it requires a lot of time away from school. How do you guys handle that?

Speaker 3: 4:03

Just having a plan and maintaining all of our practices and schoolwork and it's actually helpful now that we have cheer after school, because it's a way that we can get our homework done before and stuff and just having a plan is really a way that works out best for me.

Speaker 4: 4:19

I think, going off of that for sure, time management I think we've all learned to manage our time better than we had before with the eighth period cheer, because that's something new that we started this year and I think that it's had a lot greater of an impact than in the morning, I think keeping up with it throughout all of the year, even in summer, is really helpful because sometimes when you get back and you haven't doubled in a while, it hurts your body.

Speaker 5: 4:43

So keeping up with it helps a lot.

Speaker 1: 4:45

Soby, you talked about time management, which really got my attention, because I have a freshman that just started at an HP this year and I think that's gonna be a work in progress, were you? Did you have that nailed down when you were a freshman, or did it take a little bit to figure that part out?

Speaker 4: 5:01

Definitely not. It's definitely a skill I've learned throughout my high school experience and I've been so lucky to have friends to rely on for time management and teammates to rely on, because we're all going through the same thing, so it's definitely important to find community with that.

Speaker 2: 5:16

Well, and I would imagine that you all have to keep up a certain diet, right, Georgia, what kind of? How do you do that?

Speaker 5: 5:24

I make sure I eat three meals a day and make sure that it's not like junk food before I'm tumbling, because sometimes that'll upset your stomach and you don't want to tumble like that.

Speaker 2: 5:33

Yeah, I can imagine. So you know, obviously, like I have a son who's in a college sport and it really is about commitment and he learned it. It took him a while to learn it, like you guys just said, you know, at the time management thing, etc. He too enjoys the fact that now it's in the evenings instead of in the mornings, which really helps because he can get work done beforehand. But what I love about him being in a sport and have since he was in fifth grade is the fact that it's the community that you get right and you guys. I mean this is a tradition at Highland Park for what? Almost 100 years now, right? So I imagine that the community is a big thing for you guys, right?

Speaker 4: 6:08

Yeah, I think that community is super, super, super special and HP cheer because it brings together people from all different front groups in different grades that you would never normally meet or get to create bonds with, which I think is super special.

Speaker 1: 6:21

So I'm talking to all of you. It sounds like you were Raider cheerleaders, which you were the cheerleaders at the middle school and seventh and eighth grader and so was my daughter and I have. The funniest story is I was at one of the games watching your cheer and she literally was just like so laxadaisical, like just clapping like this. I wish you guys could see this. But she just literally was not very into it and I made eye contact with her and I was like what the heck? And then she just died laughing and she later got her stuff together and went on to be a bell, which I was very happy for her, which I never would have seen that happening at that very moment. But tell me about your experience about being a Raider cheerleader and just how that led you to being an HP cheer.

Speaker 3: 7:04

I think it's a huge transition from Raider cheer to HP cheer, but I think Raider cheer is actually the best experience to set you up. It's a way to meet girls and the sponsor, ms Holtzman, is amazing and she actually like really helped me understand game day cheers and all that. And I kind of had the same situation, like in the field. I would always look at my mom and like she would just have a death stare at her face and I would just have to straighten up just for the sake of the.

Speaker 3: 7:31

I don't want to have the conversation later and like I just think that actually prepared me for HP cheer because it is obviously a bigger crowd. But Raider cheer was a great way to like prepare you mentally and physically for Highland Park.

Speaker 4: 7:45

Yeah, I think Raider cheer definitely helps with the transition to JV with Highland Park cheer, just because the crowds are similar in size and it's a lot more relatable and an easy transition than to go straight to varsity. Obviously, jv has such a special role too in the community.

Speaker 5: 8:03

I think that Raider cheer is a very good place to find your voice. That's something I've always struggled with. I've always been more of a quiet cheerleader and this year and last year I've really like opened up and gotten louder and now my friends will always like joke around and they'll be like Georgia, be quiet You're being so loud, and when you say that, you mean find your voice in life in general, right, yes, and just like speak up, especially because when you're in eighth grade everyone's really nervous to be the loudest one, but in cheer that's actually a good thing.

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Speaker 2: 10:26

obviously you're the captains, so obviously you know you're on the team no matter what. But my question because I don't have a daughter or a Highland Park high school kid is do you have to try out every year?

Speaker 3: 10:40

Yes, ma'am, the tryout is fair for everyone. Every single year it's completely random judges that have no idea who you are. They know you by a number. They don't know your name. You're not allowed to wear any HP cheer clothing or any way to give out that you've been on the team before, and there's new material every year that you learn. So no one really has the upper hand advantage. They might have more experience in you, but it's a pretty fair tryout for every single person.

Speaker 5: 11:06

I think it's really a good thing that we try out every year, because it keeps us up with our skills.

Speaker 4: 11:12

Yeah, so trying out every year is super, super fair for everyone, just because, even if you were a JV captain or a junior representative or anyone, if you've been to health leadership in years before, like you're on the same level and playing field as your peers. And it's just super awesome and like grounding to like be on the same level as everyone and everyone go through the same thing at the same time.

Speaker 1: 11:32

Well, last year, I was at every pep rally, every game, and something that I noticed about you all is you are amazing tumblers. Like it was so impressive to watch that. I love, love, love watching that. So tell me about that part of the equation.

Speaker 3: 11:47

I think one of the biggest things about high school cheer that's different than competitive cheer is high school cheer. High school cheer it's you're tumbling on a dead mat, which is a mat with no springs. So if your daughter does competitive cheer, I think like the biggest preparation that I had to do personally for trial was switching my tumbling from a spring floor to a dead mat, which is it's a hard transition but, like Georgia said, that if you just keep up your preparation and your practice it kind of becomes like a habit where you don't really think of the difference of springs and no springs. But furthering on that, like pep rallies are just on dead mat, which was like a big transition for me personally.

Speaker 1: 12:26

So, Caroline, do you mean to tell me because I've seen what it takes to roll that big mat out? It's always a lot of production to get you guys to roll it out and roll it back. That is not a spring mat.

Speaker 3: 12:37

Nope, it is just like one singular kind of cushion mat, but on the gym floor it's easier than on the turf. Personally, Okay.

Speaker 2: 12:45

so question about this when you say a spring mat versus a, what did you call it a dead mat?

Speaker 3: 12:49

Yes, ma'am.

Speaker 2: 12:49

So is it that a spring mat gives you like some lift?

Speaker 3: 12:53

Yeah, there's just like. I don't every like foot. There's going to be a spring under it, oh, okay, so it is like with a wood base, yeah there's a bouncy base, exactly so there's it's like half a foot off the ground, and then there's springs all under the blue mat.

Speaker 2: 13:07

Okay.

Speaker 3: 13:07

And then it just it's a lot easier to tumble on that.

Speaker 2: 13:10

Yeah, I would imagine.

Speaker 3: 13:11

Yeah, the rest of trying and propelling yourself.

Speaker 2: 13:13

it's all you, right, okay.

Speaker 1: 13:16

So is it hard? I feel like that, that our community is like we are just like gung-ho at these games. We love to come out and support them. Is it hard to get the crowd all pumped up and excited?

Speaker 4: 13:27

Sometimes it's a little bit hard, but we're really really lucky to have such good game day coaches as well as competitive coaches, so we're able to present the best we can for our student section and I feel like whenever we're giving our best in the student section is able to too.

Speaker 2: 13:41

Okay, so I'm an actor and there's nothing worse than when an audience doesn't respond. So do you guys have any funny stories about when, when there's? Just like a really dull crowd and you're like oh my God, I'm just like trying to pull teeth.

Speaker 4: 13:54

A lot of times that happens in away games, because you don't have, like the whole Highlander student section. So I think this was like two weeks ago. So me and someone else on the team, we had signs in our hands, let's say defense on them, and all of us were going defense, defense and there was just no one to respond other than our two parents, it was just so funny that all of us were like really getting into it, and it was only our parents.

Speaker 2: 14:17

Yes, definitely that's a people.

Speaker 3: 14:19

I think we're also lucky from other schools that we have Scotsman, because they are also a great like aspect on getting the crowd amped up and although we don't have boy cheerleaders anymore, I think Scotsman are a good addition to, like the student section, morale and everything.

Speaker 1: 14:35

Right, they're kind of their own little entity.

Speaker 5: 14:37

Yes, we also have such a good student section, and sometimes we'll start cheers and then the whole student section starts doing it with us and it's so fun.

Speaker 1: 14:47

Well, one of my most favorite things is being on the sidelines at our home games is the student section. I mean, those kids are so pumped up Like that must be so fun to be right in front of them like you are.

Speaker 3: 15:00

Actually the other home game. Something funny that happened I just remembered was I looked in the stands and my friend's dad was in the student sections and he was starting the chat. You can't do that.

Speaker 4: 15:11

It was so funny.

Speaker 3: 15:12

It's just like. It's just like it put a smile on all of our faces.

Speaker 2: 15:16

Was he like shirtless and had his body?

Speaker 3: 15:18

painted for each week.

Speaker 2: 15:19

No, he just like this guy's a put.

Speaker 3: 15:20

I just like barely saw me glasses on. It was so funny.

Speaker 1: 15:25

You gotta love your crazy parents in Highland Park, right?

Speaker 2: 15:27

Yes, I know.

Speaker 1: 15:28

Sometimes, parents, we think we're kids too.

Speaker 5: 15:30

Exactly. Sometimes some of the boys will be like, oh, will you do, will Jam on you yeah.

Speaker 4: 15:36

That's just one of our cheers. I was gonna say wait tell me what that is.

Speaker 1: 15:40

So can you do that? Cheer for us.

Speaker 3: 15:43

Just like we wanna hear it. Will Jam on you. Scotty's can jam. You know that we can. We're on the move, we're ready to groove. Scotty's will jam on you.

Speaker 1: 15:57

We'll know, what you like. That's very catchy.

Speaker 2: 16:00

I'm gonna sing that all night.

Speaker 1: 16:03

Well, I love it. So, tying in with the student section, one of my favorite things that I noticed last year when I was on the field is the guys in the striped overalls. There's these guys, like a whole row of these guys, and the yellow and the blue striped overalls. They wear them for every games. What is that about?

Speaker 3: 16:20

These guys, basically those overalls. I don't know how long these traditions have been going on, but have been passed down throughout the years to people that obviously are on football, but I think some could say that those people cheer more than we do. What?

Speaker 2: 16:33

are they like random people who are not at the school? No, they're part of the school.

Speaker 1: 16:37

They're students, so HP students.

Speaker 3: 16:39

Yes, ma'am, but yeah, they're awesome and they actually keep us happy and smiling and even though when the games are tough and we're falling behind or something, they actually are a great addition too, and they always are starting chants and they're yelling at us to start chants and I think they're a really good addition to our student section.

Speaker 1: 16:59

So do you know anything about the actual overalls? Or they like, pass down from class to class?

Speaker 4: 17:04

Is it like?

Speaker 1: 17:05

Sisterhood or the Traveling Pants. How does this work with these overalls?

Speaker 5: 17:09

Yes, they're passed down from the boys in the grade above us who wore them, so it's more, it's like a friendship passed down.

Speaker 2: 17:16

Okay, it kind of reminds me of Mavs man. Have you ever seen those guys?

Speaker 5: 17:19

Yeah, like that, it's like they're just random cheering guys they are awesome?

Speaker 1: 17:23

Yes, they are. So in the reading about your history, it looks like there used to be boys on your team and there now we have the Scotsmen, which are several guys out on the field running around in these crazy pants and they have the flags every time we make a touchdown. Tell us about them.

Speaker 3: 17:40

So the Scotsmen go through a thorough process, like I bet. Their trial process is almost as hard as ours and they have to make videos which we all see, and a lot of thought and work goes into these interviews that they have to go through and I think it all shows in a positive aspect because these guys are awesome and we rely on them for a lot. They carry our signs, they carry the flags, obviously, and they're just the best. And the other home game was our first chance that we got to actually run the flags with them fourth quarter and it is. I have so much more respect for them. It is so hard, it looks hard. I was like I was winded, I was bent over, I could not catch my breath and I remember I would always look at them and be like, oh, that's just like it looks so easy.

Speaker 3: 18:26

But now they actually have a hard job and I respect them so much.

Speaker 5: 18:31

Me and Sobi were actually running the flag last Friday and we were holding the S and the Scots flag was behind us and we were running so slow that the flag behind us, passed us and then it didn't say HBHS anymore, h-p-s-h so far behind.

Speaker 4: 18:46

It was so funny.

Speaker 1: 18:48

You kind of have to have like a pace setter at the beginning and like.

Speaker 2: 18:51

Is that the?

Speaker 1: 18:51

tone of how fast you're going to go.

Speaker 2: 18:53

It's so much fun how Highland Park High School has so much enthusiasm for things. And that brings me to this topic. The spirited Scots Tell everybody about that because I've always been impressed by that. I had a friend's daughter, rachel Berglund, who was part of it for a long time and she just loved it, like it really made her feel like she was part of the school.

Speaker 5: 19:12

Spirited Scots is a cheer program for athletes with disabilities and it's a really special way for them to experience what we get to experience of cheering on the sidelines. And they cheer for the first half of the football game in front of middle school the first quarter, and the student section, the second quarter and it's really special for them to be able to experience that and the students love it too because, like everyone has grown up with all of these girls and boys and they each get a helper, which is a really hard process to go through. They go through an interview and then they get paired with an athlete with disabilities and this is just such a cool experience that our school provides that not every school does.

Speaker 2: 19:55

Exactly. I mean I see videos online and just everybody. It just seems like it's so full of joy and very all inclusive.

Speaker 1: 20:03

Yes, so besides football games and pep rallies, what else do you guys attend and do?

Speaker 4: 20:09

Yes, so HV Cheer cheers at basketball, volleyball and football, and they're all just super, super fun and different in their own ways, but they allow you to have more of a personal connection with who you're cheering for, because they can actually hear you and reciprocate back the energy that you're giving in. And we also do pep rallies, which are super, super fun. That's what we spend a lot of our practice time doing and getting ready for. We get to do all these different themes for every week and it's just super fun to dress up for them and just get the student section excited for the games.

Speaker 1: 20:40

What do you think about the switching between the bells and the cheerleaders? I love that pep rally last year.

Speaker 4: 20:48

It's so much fun. It's called Senior Switch and the senior bells and senior cheerleaders basically switch spots and the cheerleaders will perform a bell's routine in their fringe and the bells will perform a cheer routine in our white pleated uniforms.

Speaker 3: 21:01

And I know, ever since I was little, one of the lieutenants and I have had a dream that one of those games or pep rallies we'd be switching uniforms, like if I was a captain and she was a lieutenant, and I just think it's like something I've been looking forward to all for like 15 years at least, and I'm just like I'm so excited and getting to wear the bells fringes is such an honor and I know they feel the same way with our uniform too. So I think it's a great tradition that Highland Park has.

Speaker 5: 21:28

I am so excited. The cheer team has been talking about it a lot and we're like, oh, let's take group dance lessons.

Speaker 4: 21:35

No, we're going all out this year. Yeah.

Speaker 1: 21:38

Well, I'll tell you, it did not disappoint last year. It was amazing to see everybody switch around, and everyone did a wonderful job.

Speaker 2: 21:45

So what is your alls? Each of you your favorite part about being in cheer?

Speaker 3: 21:49

I would say my favorite part is the people. I know that is kind of a common answer but seriously, I've met my best friends throughout this and the coaches have helped me so much with everything I do. I mean, just communicating with them is awesome. They have so many connections to all these people. They are actually the coaches at Mustang Cheer, so if your daughter cheers there, they definitely will know. The coach is coming into Highland Park High School, which is a great advantage too, because they're just awesome people and I think meeting them and coming closer with the seniors on our team and the juniors has just been like the best experience in high school and I know I'll have these people in my life for as long as I can remember.

Speaker 5: 22:29

My favorite part about cheer is definitely the pep rallies. I have so much fun. There's a new theme each week and we get cute new outfits and there's so much fun that we put in a lot of work to perform in these. So it's really special getting that reward at the end of it and we just have so much fun.

Speaker 4: 22:47

I think one of my favorite parts of being a cheerleader is seeing all of the little girls on the rail at the games to try to give you high fives when you walk by after we run out. And it's just super, super special and kind of full circle, because I remember being one of those girls trying to touch a cheerleader's hand and trying to get her to like me and make her laugh. And so it's just super special to see that come full circle.

Speaker 1: 23:10

Soby. That's 100% what my daughter said Her favorite part about being a bell was is seeing the little girls and the little girl fringe on the sidelines. It's just, and I love it too when I'm out there on the field. It's so cute and just like they're so supportive and so excited to see you all, and every year you all do something special for the little girls with cheer, and they get to be out there on the field with you.

Speaker 3: 23:30

Yes, ma'am, that is something we always look forward to. I think this year we have 10 girls that get to be a cheerleader of the day and it's just a great way to show them behind the scenes and what actually we prepare for at the games and stuff. And the run out is something I know every cheerleader looks forward to all throughout Friday. It's just such a fun adrenaline boost. And it's even more fun to do it with the little girls because you kind of get to pull them as a football team is running behind you, and I know they like it too, and when I was a girl in elementary I know that would just be the best experience ever. So we're so excited to meet all of y'all and show y'all everything that HP Cheer is about.

Speaker 1: 24:10

Well, I love being on the field for the run now and I can only imagine what it would be like to be a little girl and be out there with you all. So we're talking to you all the day before the big game Jesuit versus Highland Park. It's much anticipated, one of the biggest games of the year. Do you all have anything special planned for it?

Speaker 4: 24:26

Yes, we're super, super, super excited for the game, especially because it's gonna be a SMU this year, which is so much fun that we get like such a big venue for such a big game. I know everyone's really really looking forward to it because I think it's everyone's favorite game of the year since we started doing it. I know HP cheer has prepared a really, really awesome pep rally that we're really excited to share with our student body and the community. If you want to stream it online tomorrow morning, we're super excited for that and, yeah, so for the beat Jesuit game.

Speaker 3: 24:54

We'll have beat Jesuit shirts. I'm sure you've seen them around, but they're gonna be even more noticeable at this game because it is at the SMU stadium and it's gonna be the best game of the year and also that we are gonna be debuting our new pyramids during time out. So make sure you look at the sidelines throughout the student section and the middle school section, because we'll be having new pyramids, new baskets, new Stunts that we've been practicing, and you won't be able to miss us in our beat Jesuit t-shirts.

Speaker 2: 25:21

Yeah, I saw a shirt one time and I actually see them all the time and I always fall for it. I always think it says beat Jesus, and it disturbs me tremendously and I'm like, oh, it says Jesuit, yes. And I'm like, wow, I.

Speaker 5: 25:35

Had someone asked me one time if I was wearing a shirt that said that I was like.

Speaker 2: 25:43

So details about the big game when is it and where the game?

Speaker 5: 25:46

is tomorrow at seven at SMU. We're so excited see you all there. Beat Jesuit Scotty's find a way.

Speaker 2: 25:54

Thank you guys so much for being on the show. We really appreciate it and we're so excited for you, very impressed with all the hard work that you do.

Speaker 5: 26:01

Thank you so much. We had so, we had so much fun.

Speaker 1: 26:04

That's been another episode of the bubble lounge.

Speaker 2: 26:06

I'm Martha Jackson and I'm Nellie shudo, and we'll catch you next time.